# New Product Proposal

**URL:** <https://community.thinkgeo.com/t/new-product-proposal/4780>\
**Category:** WebForms\
**Created:** [April 22, 2009, 5:48am UTC](https://community.thinkgeo.com/t/new-product-proposal/4780 "2009-04-22T05:48:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![Hakan\_Celik](https://community.thinkgeo.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/4491bb/32.png) [@Hakan\_Celik](https://community.thinkgeo.com/u/Hakan_Celik)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 5:48am UTC](https://community.thinkgeo.com/t/new-product-proposal/4780/1 "2009-04-22T05:48:56Z")

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Hello,

I'm&nbsp;examining&nbsp;Map&nbsp;Suite&nbsp;World&nbsp;Map&nbsp;Kit&nbsp;for&nbsp;possible&nbsp;use&nbsp;in&nbsp;our&nbsp;system.

I'm&nbsp;especially&nbsp;interested&nbsp;in&nbsp;rendering&nbsp;classes,&nbsp;I&nbsp;guess&nbsp;they&nbsp;are&nbsp;called&nbsp;collectively&nbsp;as&nbsp;the&nbsp;Rendering&nbsp;Plugin.&nbsp;Creating&nbsp;something&nbsp;similar&nbsp;from&nbsp;scratch&nbsp;would&nbsp;take&nbsp;a&nbsp;lot&nbsp;of&nbsp;time,&nbsp;which&nbsp;I&nbsp;don't&nbsp;have&nbsp;at&nbsp;this&nbsp;time.

So,&nbsp;I'm&nbsp;interested&nbsp;in&nbsp;buying&nbsp;the&nbsp;rendering&nbsp;plugin.&nbsp;But&nbsp;I&nbsp;don't&nbsp;have&nbsp;any&nbsp;use&nbsp;for&nbsp;USA&nbsp;and&nbsp;Canada&nbsp;street&nbsp;level&nbsp;maps,&nbsp;and&nbsp;neither&nbsp;other&nbsp;customers&nbsp;of&nbsp;yours&nbsp;who&nbsp;are&nbsp;not&nbsp;located&nbsp;in&nbsp;North&nbsp;America.&nbsp;I&nbsp;may&nbsp;use&nbsp;the&nbsp;World&nbsp;data,&nbsp;though.&nbsp;

Right&nbsp;now,&nbsp;if&nbsp;I&nbsp;like&nbsp;to&nbsp;have&nbsp;the&nbsp;plugin,&nbsp;I&nbsp;have&nbsp;to&nbsp;pay&nbsp;for&nbsp;things&nbsp;that&nbsp;I&nbsp;wouldn't&nbsp;use.

My&nbsp;proposal&nbsp;is&nbsp;to&nbsp;split&nbsp;Map&nbsp;Suite&nbsp;World&nbsp;Map&nbsp;Kit&nbsp;into&nbsp;different&nbsp;products&nbsp;to&nbsp;create&nbsp;some&nbsp;additional&nbsp;choices&nbsp;for&nbsp;us&nbsp;,&nbsp;such&nbsp;as&nbsp;:

1)&nbsp;Rendering&nbsp;Plugin  
  
2)&nbsp;World&nbsp;Data  
  
3)&nbsp;USA&nbsp;and&nbsp;Canada&nbsp;Street&nbsp;Level&nbsp;Data

or

1)&nbsp;Rendering&nbsp;Plugin&nbsp;+&nbsp;World&nbsp;Data&nbsp;+&nbsp;USA&nbsp;and&nbsp;Canada&nbsp;Street&nbsp;Level&nbsp;Data&nbsp;(Current&nbsp;product)  
  
2)&nbsp;Rendering&nbsp;Plugin&nbsp;+&nbsp;World&nbsp;Data

or

1)&nbsp;Rendering&nbsp;Plugin  
  
2)&nbsp;Map&nbsp;Data&nbsp;Pack&nbsp;(World&nbsp;Data&nbsp;+&nbsp;USA&nbsp;and&nbsp;Canada&nbsp;Street&nbsp;Level&nbsp;Data)

Of&nbsp;course,&nbsp;I'm&nbsp;assuming&nbsp;that&nbsp;splitting&nbsp;the&nbsp;product&nbsp;would&nbsp;mean&nbsp;a&nbsp;significant&nbsp;price&nbsp;advantage&nbsp;for&nbsp;those&nbsp;who&nbsp;don't&nbsp;need&nbsp;the&nbsp;other&nbsp;parts.&nbsp;As&nbsp;a&nbsp;result,&nbsp;customers&nbsp;could&nbsp;buy&nbsp;whatever&nbsp;they&nbsp;need.

Does&nbsp;this&nbsp;proposal&nbsp;make&nbsp;sense&nbsp;to&nbsp;you&nbsp;?

Regards,

Hakan

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**Author:** ![David](https://community.thinkgeo.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@David](https://community.thinkgeo.com/u/David)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2009, 2:36am UTC](https://community.thinkgeo.com/t/new-product-proposal/4780/2 "2009-04-23T02:36:27Z")

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Hakan,&nbsp;  
&nbsp;&nbsp;  
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Thanks&nbsp;for&nbsp;your&nbsp;suggestions.&nbsp;&nbsp;This&nbsp;has&nbsp;an&nbsp;interesting&nbsp;history&nbsp;and&nbsp;I&nbsp;will&nbsp;attempt&nbsp;to&nbsp;explain&nbsp;it&nbsp;as&nbsp;best&nbsp;as&nbsp;I&nbsp;can.&nbsp;&nbsp;With&nbsp;the&nbsp;2.x&nbsp;product&nbsp;line&nbsp;we&nbsp;had&nbsp;the&nbsp;US,&nbsp;World&nbsp;and&nbsp;Canada&nbsp;as&nbsp;separate&nbsp;products.&nbsp;&nbsp;To&nbsp;buy&nbsp;each&nbsp;of&nbsp;them&nbsp;was&nbsp;much&nbsp;more&nbsp;expensive&nbsp;than&nbsp;what&nbsp;the&nbsp;World&nbsp;Map&nbsp;kit&nbsp;costs.&nbsp;&nbsp;We&nbsp;had&nbsp;so&nbsp;many&nbsp;users&nbsp;that&nbsp;all&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;areas&nbsp;and&nbsp;suggested&nbsp;we&nbsp;combine&nbsp;them.&nbsp;&nbsp;It&nbsp;was&nbsp;also&nbsp;much&nbsp;more&nbsp;of&nbsp;a&nbsp;hassle&nbsp;for&nbsp;us&nbsp;to&nbsp;support&nbsp;more&nbsp;products&nbsp;and&nbsp;we&nbsp;had&nbsp;many&nbsp;people&nbsp;who&nbsp;didn’t&nbsp;understand&nbsp;the&nbsp;pricing.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;  
&nbsp;&nbsp;  
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The&nbsp;challenge&nbsp;with&nbsp;a&nbsp;data&nbsp;plug&nbsp;in&nbsp;model&nbsp;is&nbsp;that&nbsp;to&nbsp;get&nbsp;the&nbsp;maps&nbsp;looking&nbsp;nice&nbsp;you&nbsp;need&nbsp;to&nbsp;sculpt&nbsp;it&nbsp;at&nbsp;every&nbsp;zoom&nbsp;level&nbsp;and&nbsp;need&nbsp;to&nbsp;reliably&nbsp;know&nbsp;what&nbsp;data&nbsp;you&nbsp;will&nbsp;be&nbsp;using.&nbsp;&nbsp;If&nbsp;you&nbsp;had&nbsp;a&nbsp;world&nbsp;dataset&nbsp;&nbsp;and&nbsp;then&nbsp;you&nbsp;plugged&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;USA&nbsp;high&nbsp;detail&nbsp;the&nbsp;master&nbsp;set&nbsp;needs&nbsp;to&nbsp;know&nbsp;not&nbsp;to&nbsp;draw&nbsp;after&nbsp;a&nbsp;certain&nbsp;zoom&nbsp;level.&nbsp;&nbsp;If&nbsp;the&nbsp;plug-in&nbsp;not&nbsp;there&nbsp;then&nbsp;it&nbsp;needs&nbsp;to.&nbsp;&nbsp;It&nbsp;is&nbsp;a&nbsp;really&nbsp;tricky&nbsp;business&nbsp;and&nbsp;can&nbsp;quickly&nbsp;get&nbsp;complicated.&nbsp;  
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;As&nbsp;I&nbsp;understand&nbsp;it&nbsp;there&nbsp;is&nbsp;a&nbsp;cost&nbsp;to&nbsp;having&nbsp;more&nbsp;products&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;sense&nbsp;they&nbsp;are&nbsp;all&nbsp;separate&nbsp;marketing,&nbsp;product&nbsp;pages,&nbsp;pricing.&nbsp;&nbsp;There&nbsp;is&nbsp;the&nbsp;cost&nbsp;to&nbsp;explaining&nbsp;to&nbsp;the&nbsp;user&nbsp;how&nbsp;they&nbsp;fit&nbsp;together,&nbsp;if&nbsp;they&nbsp;fit&nbsp;together.&nbsp;&nbsp;Having&nbsp;to&nbsp;update&nbsp;products&nbsp;on&nbsp;different&nbsp;release&nbsp;schedules&nbsp;etc.&nbsp;&nbsp;I&nbsp;think&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;end&nbsp;they&nbsp;decided&nbsp;to&nbsp;roll&nbsp;them&nbsp;all&nbsp;into&nbsp;one&nbsp;product&nbsp;to&nbsp;make&nbsp;it&nbsp;easier&nbsp;to&nbsp;understand,&nbsp;sell,&nbsp;maintain,&nbsp;etc.&nbsp;&nbsp;The&nbsp;datasets,&nbsp;I&nbsp;think,&nbsp;are&nbsp;royalty&nbsp;free&nbsp;so&nbsp;it&nbsp;isn’t&nbsp;costing&nbsp;us&nbsp;any&nbsp;more&nbsp;money&nbsp;to&nbsp;pass&nbsp;more&nbsp;data&nbsp;along&nbsp;to&nbsp;you.&nbsp;&nbsp;The&nbsp;costs&nbsp;to&nbsp;us&nbsp;are&nbsp;mainly&nbsp;in&nbsp;sales,&nbsp;marketing,&nbsp;development,&nbsp;maintenance&nbsp;and&nbsp;support.&nbsp;  
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;If&nbsp;one&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;issues&nbsp;for&nbsp;you&nbsp;is&nbsp;the&nbsp;dataset&nbsp;size&nbsp;then&nbsp;we&nbsp;can&nbsp;help&nbsp;you&nbsp;eliminate&nbsp;the&nbsp;bulk&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;data&nbsp;that&nbsp;only&nbsp;shows&nbsp;when&nbsp;you&nbsp;zoom&nbsp;into&nbsp;street&nbsp;level&nbsp;for&nbsp;the&nbsp;US&nbsp;and&nbsp;Canada.&nbsp;  
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Having&nbsp;said&nbsp;all&nbsp;of&nbsp;that&nbsp;I&nbsp;am&nbsp;passing&nbsp;your&nbsp;comments&nbsp;to&nbsp;sales&nbsp;and&nbsp;product&nbsp;development.&nbsp;&nbsp;I&nbsp;think&nbsp;it&nbsp;would&nbsp;be&nbsp;nice&nbsp;to&nbsp;at&nbsp;least&nbsp;have&nbsp;the&nbsp;data&nbsp;bundled&nbsp;in&nbsp;such&nbsp;a&nbsp;way&nbsp;as&nbsp;you&nbsp;can&nbsp;easily&nbsp;trim&nbsp;it&nbsp;down&nbsp;if&nbsp;you&nbsp;are&nbsp;not&nbsp;using&nbsp;street&nbsp;level&nbsp;data&nbsp;for&nbsp;a&nbsp;country.&nbsp;  
&nbsp;&nbsp;  
&nbsp;David

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**Author:** ![Hakan\_Celik](https://community.thinkgeo.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/4491bb/32.png) [@Hakan\_Celik](https://community.thinkgeo.com/u/Hakan_Celik)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 4:04am UTC](https://community.thinkgeo.com/t/new-product-proposal/4780/3 "2009-04-24T04:04:21Z")

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David,

Thank&nbsp;you&nbsp;very&nbsp;much&nbsp;for&nbsp;your&nbsp;time&nbsp;and&nbsp;detailed&nbsp;explanation&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;issues&nbsp;surrounding&nbsp;my&nbsp;proposal.&nbsp;I&nbsp;have&nbsp;also&nbsp;received&nbsp;information&nbsp;from&nbsp;sales&nbsp;and&nbsp;I'm&nbsp;considering&nbsp;the&nbsp;options&nbsp;now.

Regards,

Hakan

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**Author:** ![David](https://community.thinkgeo.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@David](https://community.thinkgeo.com/u/David)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 2:31am UTC](https://community.thinkgeo.com/t/new-product-proposal/4780/4 "2009-04-27T02:31:28Z")

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Hakan,&nbsp;  
&nbsp;&nbsp;  
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;My&nbsp;pleasure.&nbsp;  
&nbsp;&nbsp;  
&nbsp;David